I Have A Dream
by Nancy Kivlen
Now it's a nightmare.
We will be supporting John McCain in November.
We didn't have to re-register, we could have simply voted for McCain in November, but we wanted to send a message to the Democratic Party. We are unhappy, disappointed, and angry at Obama, his supporters, the media and the Democratic Party.
Barack Obama was Selected, Not Elected by the Democratic party.
Pledged delegates were won by each candidate either through a primary or a caucus. Obama received most of his delegates by winning caucuses. The very nature of a caucus suppresses voter turnout, since caucuses take place over a few hours on a specific day and do not allow absentee ballots, those that are unable to attend (workers, disabled, mothers with childcare issues) cannot participate. Consequently a delegate in a small state with low voter turnout like Idaho, receives far more weight than a delegate from a primary in a bigger state with high voter turnout, like California.
While the Democrats cried "foul!" to the outcome in Florida over the votes counted and not counted in 2000, this same party decided to count votes in Florida by 1/2 for moving their primary date forward which was not the party's fault. And in Michigan the Rules & Bylaws committee voted to completely OVERTURN the results of the election and give Obama 59 extra delegates that he did not win, while taking 4 delegates from Hillary Clinton that she did win.
When you consider that Obama "won" the pledged delegates by a mere 3%, or 125. This includes the extra 59 delegates from a state whose ballot he chose to remove his name from. You can see that the 125 delegate lead is reduced to a mere 58 pledged delegate lead had the delegates been distributed according to the votes. This is called OVERTURNING THE ELECTION RESULTS - the very thing the Democrats cried "foul!" over in 2000.
Pledged Delegates Barack Obama 1,765 (51%) + 125 +3%
Hillary Clinton 1,640 (48%) **she takes these to the convention
What MI should have
looked like: Barak Obama 1,702 (50.8%) +58 +1.7%
Hillary Clinton 1,644 (49.1%)
Super Delegates Barack Obama 424 + 144
Hillary Clinton 282
Uncommitted 118
(Super Delegates can change their mind, final vote at convention)
Hillary Clinton not only won the popular vote in the Democratic primaries, she received more votes than any other candidate in the history of any primary in the United States with over 18 million votes!!
Obama has a history of disenfranchising voters. Not only did he not want the votes counted in Florida or Michigan, he did not want a revote to take place.
I am not surprised, when Obama first came to Chicago and ran for his state senate seat in IL he was successful because he had the incumbent, Alice Palmer and his other opponents removed from the ballot in a legal loophole maneuver. Consequently, he ran unopposed and the popular, qualified incumbent Alice Palmer was OUT!
Obama has lied about his relationships with Rev Wright, Father Pfledger, and convicted terrorist William Ayers. He has also lied about his association with convicted felon Tony Rezko.
Does anyone else find it odd that demands for Hillary to leave the race escalated on a day when his "friend" Rezko was convicted on 16 counts of bribery and fraud that the news media failed to report on?
He has called all these relationships "unfortunate".
This is the politics of "Hope" and "Change"?
Are you kidding me?
The Male Elite Losers of the Democratic party all backed Obama early and consistently called for Hillary to quit the race. Dashle, Bradley, Kerry, Edwards, Richardson, Leahy, McGovern, Kennedy and Howard Dean are all losers themselves in their quests for the Presidency. The only Winner in the group supported Hillary Clinton.
The only President to successfully serve two terms in my lifetime: Bill Clinton.
Since neither Hillary nor Barack could win the nomination through the election process, due to the tightness of the race, it required the Elite to choose one of them and -how surprising- they chose the younger, inexperienced, unqualified male over the older, experienced, qualified female. In California we call that DISCRIMINATION.
EASY. This is my protest vote.
Sometimes the PERSON running (or not running in this case) is MORE IMPORTANT than the issues.
Sometimes if they will not listen, you have to find a way to make yourself heard.
For the 6-10 million Hillary supporters that plan to vote for McCain, or not vote at all - we are lucky. The Republicans actually picked a MODERATE candidate!!! John McCain has similar views to democrats on: global warming, immigration, gay rights (he believes same sex couples should have legal rights of some sort), and campaign finance reform.
Now, of course, Republicans don't have a problem with the idea of many Hillary supporters joining them against Obama.
In fact, I was shocked to see that on McCain's own website blog there were more Hillary supporters there on Wed night than McCain supporters!!
"Welcome Hillary Supporters" one Republican male wrote - "We may not agree on all issues, but we will try to be open minded and hear you, we hope you will be open minded too. Remember, even we Republicans can't agree on very many issues. But we all have one goal and that is to defeat Obama in November."
Senator Joe Lieberman sent us Hillary supporters an email on Friday asking us to join him in supporting John McCain.
Of course Democrats and Independents are appalled at the idea that I would support John McCain. "What about abortion rights and women's rights?" they cry.
Okay - do you not get it? I have just witnessed the biggest abuse of a woman in modern history - the take down of the most qualified, experienced WOMAN candidate by her OWN party.
What about THAT Woman's Rights?
Where was the Democratic Party leadership when Clinton was being verbally abused and having sexist hate messages hurled at her by the media on a nightly basis? Where was the media when the Obama campaign screamed "Racist" at Bill & Hillary Clinton?
NOWHERE.
Nope - it ain't gonna work - not this time.
Threatening me with Supreme Court justices and overturning Roe v Wade isn't gonna work this time. If it was not overturned in the last 8 years under the most conservative, backwards administration and congress in my lifetime, then it surely will not be overturned under a more moderate McCain Presidency who will have a majority Democratic congress.
And - I do not care about the war anymore. The Deaths of the 4,000 soldiers killed sit squarely on the shoulders of the stupid idiots that voted for Bush - TWICE. Talk to THEM.
I have been a loyal democrat, I supported John Kerry, even though I didn't like him. I knew the stakes were high then, but stupid people voted for Bush and here we are.
This is about how Hillary Clinton has been UNFAIRLY treated as a Woman candidate for President: by the media, by Obama, by his supporters and by the Democratic Party.
If we do not correct it now and speak out about it now, then it will not change.
We must protest.
This is about WOMEN'S RIGHTS and telling the Democratic Party that the 60% membership of women in the party count too.
I wish she'd leave the Democratic Party and run as an Independent. She won't do that, but voting for McCain opens it up for her to run in 2012.
It is the fastest path for her to be elected barring the possibility that my new party will find enough trash in Obama's background to have the Super Delegates change their mind at the Convention. Obama is the 'presumptive' nominee.
And finally, I do not believe Obama has the experience, qualifications or Character to be President. 1 year in the Senate (2 years running for office) does not qualify him. In fact, if he won - he would be the LEAST QUALIFIED, LEAST EXPERIENCED President we EVER had in our ENTIRE History.
I believe the Vice President position is an INSULT to Hillary Clinton (she's already done that will Bill). Still, I would like to see her take it for the simple reason - it is HISTORY making and she is only a heartbeat away from the #1 spot .....things happen....
Yes - I would vote for Hillary Clinton as Vice President, I could never vote against her.
I am glad that Hillary will only suspend her campaign and hold all her delegates until the Convention. Since the final vote by all delegates is not cast until the Convention.
And let's be clear.
Obama did not SOAR to this nomination - HE LIMPED. In fact Hillary won the last 6 out of 9 contests. She has won most of the contests since March. She has WON ALL SWING STATES. She has the stronger poll numbers against McCain and she wins the electoral swing states needed to secure the nomination.
It is the closest election in the Democratic Primary history.
Here is just how close the popular vote numbers came out:
In the end everyone makes up their own mind about who to vote for and why. That's America.
But, for me. November, 2008 - I will send a message to Barack Obama and the Democratic Party:
"No You Can't". "Not This time."
John McCain for President 2008
Now it's a nightmare.
Today I registered as a Republican for the first time in my life.
I have been a lifelong democrat, but today my family and I left the Democratic Party and registered as Republicans.We will be supporting John McCain in November.
We didn't have to re-register, we could have simply voted for McCain in November, but we wanted to send a message to the Democratic Party. We are unhappy, disappointed, and angry at Obama, his supporters, the media and the Democratic Party.
Barack Obama was Selected, Not Elected by the Democratic party.
"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her" -Susan B Anthony, 1872.The way in which Obama got the nomination is similar to how Bush won in 2000 against Gore. All votes were not counted and they were not counted equally.
Pledged delegates were won by each candidate either through a primary or a caucus. Obama received most of his delegates by winning caucuses. The very nature of a caucus suppresses voter turnout, since caucuses take place over a few hours on a specific day and do not allow absentee ballots, those that are unable to attend (workers, disabled, mothers with childcare issues) cannot participate. Consequently a delegate in a small state with low voter turnout like Idaho, receives far more weight than a delegate from a primary in a bigger state with high voter turnout, like California.
While the Democrats cried "foul!" to the outcome in Florida over the votes counted and not counted in 2000, this same party decided to count votes in Florida by 1/2 for moving their primary date forward which was not the party's fault. And in Michigan the Rules & Bylaws committee voted to completely OVERTURN the results of the election and give Obama 59 extra delegates that he did not win, while taking 4 delegates from Hillary Clinton that she did win.
When you consider that Obama "won" the pledged delegates by a mere 3%, or 125. This includes the extra 59 delegates from a state whose ballot he chose to remove his name from. You can see that the 125 delegate lead is reduced to a mere 58 pledged delegate lead had the delegates been distributed according to the votes. This is called OVERTURNING THE ELECTION RESULTS - the very thing the Democrats cried "foul!" over in 2000.
Pledged Delegates Barack Obama 1,765 (51%) + 125 +3%
Hillary Clinton 1,640 (48%) **she takes these to the convention
What MI should have
looked like: Barak Obama 1,702 (50.8%) +58 +1.7%
Hillary Clinton 1,644 (49.1%)
Super Delegates Barack Obama 424 + 144
Hillary Clinton 282
Uncommitted 118
(Super Delegates can change their mind, final vote at convention)
Hillary Clinton not only won the popular vote in the Democratic primaries, she received more votes than any other candidate in the history of any primary in the United States with over 18 million votes!!
Obama has a history of disenfranchising voters. Not only did he not want the votes counted in Florida or Michigan, he did not want a revote to take place.
I am not surprised, when Obama first came to Chicago and ran for his state senate seat in IL he was successful because he had the incumbent, Alice Palmer and his other opponents removed from the ballot in a legal loophole maneuver. Consequently, he ran unopposed and the popular, qualified incumbent Alice Palmer was OUT!
Obama has lied about his relationships with Rev Wright, Father Pfledger, and convicted terrorist William Ayers. He has also lied about his association with convicted felon Tony Rezko.
Does anyone else find it odd that demands for Hillary to leave the race escalated on a day when his "friend" Rezko was convicted on 16 counts of bribery and fraud that the news media failed to report on?
He has called all these relationships "unfortunate".
This is the politics of "Hope" and "Change"?
Are you kidding me?
The Male Elite Losers of the Democratic party all backed Obama early and consistently called for Hillary to quit the race. Dashle, Bradley, Kerry, Edwards, Richardson, Leahy, McGovern, Kennedy and Howard Dean are all losers themselves in their quests for the Presidency. The only Winner in the group supported Hillary Clinton.
The only President to successfully serve two terms in my lifetime: Bill Clinton.
Since neither Hillary nor Barack could win the nomination through the election process, due to the tightness of the race, it required the Elite to choose one of them and -how surprising- they chose the younger, inexperienced, unqualified male over the older, experienced, qualified female. In California we call that DISCRIMINATION.
"Woman is the Nigger of the World" -John Lennon and Yoko Ono, 1972.How can I vote for McCain?
"Woman is the Slave of Slaves, We insult her every day on TV and wonder why she has
no guts or confidence. When she's young, we kill her will to be free. While telling her
not to be so smart, we put her down for being so dumb."
EASY. This is my protest vote.
Sometimes the PERSON running (or not running in this case) is MORE IMPORTANT than the issues.
Sometimes if they will not listen, you have to find a way to make yourself heard.
For the 6-10 million Hillary supporters that plan to vote for McCain, or not vote at all - we are lucky. The Republicans actually picked a MODERATE candidate!!! John McCain has similar views to democrats on: global warming, immigration, gay rights (he believes same sex couples should have legal rights of some sort), and campaign finance reform.
Now, of course, Republicans don't have a problem with the idea of many Hillary supporters joining them against Obama.
In fact, I was shocked to see that on McCain's own website blog there were more Hillary supporters there on Wed night than McCain supporters!!
"Welcome Hillary Supporters" one Republican male wrote - "We may not agree on all issues, but we will try to be open minded and hear you, we hope you will be open minded too. Remember, even we Republicans can't agree on very many issues. But we all have one goal and that is to defeat Obama in November."
Senator Joe Lieberman sent us Hillary supporters an email on Friday asking us to join him in supporting John McCain.
Of course Democrats and Independents are appalled at the idea that I would support John McCain. "What about abortion rights and women's rights?" they cry.
Okay - do you not get it? I have just witnessed the biggest abuse of a woman in modern history - the take down of the most qualified, experienced WOMAN candidate by her OWN party.
What about THAT Woman's Rights?
Where was the Democratic Party leadership when Clinton was being verbally abused and having sexist hate messages hurled at her by the media on a nightly basis? Where was the media when the Obama campaign screamed "Racist" at Bill & Hillary Clinton?
NOWHERE.
Nope - it ain't gonna work - not this time.
Threatening me with Supreme Court justices and overturning Roe v Wade isn't gonna work this time. If it was not overturned in the last 8 years under the most conservative, backwards administration and congress in my lifetime, then it surely will not be overturned under a more moderate McCain Presidency who will have a majority Democratic congress.
And - I do not care about the war anymore. The Deaths of the 4,000 soldiers killed sit squarely on the shoulders of the stupid idiots that voted for Bush - TWICE. Talk to THEM.
I have been a loyal democrat, I supported John Kerry, even though I didn't like him. I knew the stakes were high then, but stupid people voted for Bush and here we are.
"Women's Rights are Human Rights" -Hillary Clinton, 1995 Beijing, China
This is about how Hillary Clinton has been UNFAIRLY treated as a Woman candidate for President: by the media, by Obama, by his supporters and by the Democratic Party.
If we do not correct it now and speak out about it now, then it will not change.
We must protest.
This is about WOMEN'S RIGHTS and telling the Democratic Party that the 60% membership of women in the party count too.
I no longer share the values of a party that selects it's
nominee through a series of discriminating and disenfranchising methods. Where certain votes count and others do not.
I wish she'd leave the Democratic Party and run as an Independent. She won't do that, but voting for McCain opens it up for her to run in 2012.
It is the fastest path for her to be elected barring the possibility that my new party will find enough trash in Obama's background to have the Super Delegates change their mind at the Convention. Obama is the 'presumptive' nominee.
And finally, I do not believe Obama has the experience, qualifications or Character to be President. 1 year in the Senate (2 years running for office) does not qualify him. In fact, if he won - he would be the LEAST QUALIFIED, LEAST EXPERIENCED President we EVER had in our ENTIRE History.
I believe the Vice President position is an INSULT to Hillary Clinton (she's already done that will Bill). Still, I would like to see her take it for the simple reason - it is HISTORY making and she is only a heartbeat away from the #1 spot .....things happen....
Yes - I would vote for Hillary Clinton as Vice President, I could never vote against her.
I am glad that Hillary will only suspend her campaign and hold all her delegates until the Convention. Since the final vote by all delegates is not cast until the Convention.
And let's be clear.
Obama did not SOAR to this nomination - HE LIMPED. In fact Hillary won the last 6 out of 9 contests. She has won most of the contests since March. She has WON ALL SWING STATES. She has the stronger poll numbers against McCain and she wins the electoral swing states needed to secure the nomination.
It is the closest election in the Democratic Primary history.
Here is just how close the popular vote numbers came out:
Popular Vote Hillary Clinton 18,046,007 (50.2%) + 176,465 +.5%
Barack Obama 17,869,542 (49.7%)
Barack Obama 17,869,542 (49.7%)
In the end everyone makes up their own mind about who to vote for and why. That's America.
But, for me. November, 2008 - I will send a message to Barack Obama and the Democratic Party:
"No You Can't". "Not This time."
John McCain for President 2008
We cannot have McCain for four years.
We need Obama in the whitehouse to pass Hillary's programs!
I TRUST Hillary and will vote as she asks me to--for Obama!!!
Please join us, Hillary and me!
Hillary speaks for me!
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"We need Obama in the WH to pass Hill's programs" ?
wow, just wow, what nerve, really
any self respect adult much alone woman who loves this country will have paid attention to the facts and credentials of Obama and do everything in their power to keep him out of our White House.
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Brenda:
You keep bringing up the fear of McCain putting a Roe busting judge on the supreme court, continuing the war, etc...
First, we will have a Democratic majority this year who can refuse to fund wars and who can easily veto a conservative judge nomination. So rest a little easy.
Granted, there's no guarantee of anything, but you have to appreciate that some of us would rather take our chances with a hamstrung moderate one-term Republican than an uber-liberal / radical liberationist pretending to be a mainstream "everyman - and woman."
Also, a radical, uber-liberal, liberationist with anti-American and reverse racist ties IS NO SUBSTITUTE for a centrist mainstream Hillary Clinton.
Second, you might consider that some of us have principles that transcend political issues. The DNC, Obama and the mainstream media screwed us - repeatedly, brutally.
I believe the anger resulting from that screwing has reached critical mass - thank God! Finally.
I would vote for a brick to keep Obama out of the White House - on principle. And yes, I believe the consequences would be worth it.
Anything to prove to the media, future politicians, and the DNC that we cannot be jerked around, disrespected, ridiculed, and dismissed.
Oh there will be pain. So be it. No pain, no gain!
Luckily, McCain is a moderate Republican with many common positions with Democrats. On the other issues, we're willing to gamble on the Democratic majority to reign him in.
In any case, he'll be gone in four years and perhaps we'll get a little more respect the next time around.
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If I thought Obama were a competent "uber-liberal", I'd vote for him in a flash.
He's not competent and he's not that liberal. He voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill. He threw gays under the bus. He's a fraud who learned pretty language to trick the public just like Bush in 2000. Remember, "I'm a uniter, not a divider"?
I'd rather have a ham-strung, one-term, more moderate than most Republican president than an incompetent Democrat who will detroy any chance we have to implement the Democratic agenda for the next 25 years.
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You may TRUST what she says, however in the privacy of the booth I bet Hillary Clinton votes McCain too. Hillary Clinton was just publicly raped by the Democratic Party and you say it's OK. If Obama had the intentions to promote her program he would have fought the wrong doing of the RBC ruling. Silence is this case amounts to admission of guilt. The man is selfish.
Wake up Babe. Obama has no intention of promoting anything of Hillary's. He just wants the votes. If you want Hillary's programs, you need Hillary, Not Obama. He has his own agenda and it is dangerous. She stated she would support Obama, she never said she would vote for him and there's a big difference. As I said before wake up --- that nomination (which is bound to be overturned -- becauses Hillary masses are fleeing the forced Obama nonsense) - that nomination was stolen from Hillary Clinton. Learn to think for yourself, not what the media feeds you.
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Hillary, Obama did not win the nomination for Presidency of the United States of America. The DNC and he stole it from you. Let it be known here and now, they will pay a "bitter" price for this move in November if you do not prevail in the end. The Democratic Party just handed the election to McCain when they hosed you over Obama. I for one woman will be voting McCain in the fall, if this incredible theft is allowed to stand. What happened to count all our votes? I cannot, even with your urging endorse this man. Now, after your campaign suspension speech the audacity of the media never ceases to amaze me. Now those arrogant @#$^$es are saying that you must get out and campaign for their golden boy. Of course you do (not), if you want a Democrat in the Whitehouse. They know he can't win without you and we all know that too. So let's go girls, let's get their poster boy elected. Yeah [W]right, when hell freezes over, I'll start. Sorry Hillary, it is you or McCain. I still say it will be you because Obama will implode before Denver. Thank God, you merely suspended your campaign.
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Mary,
The primary uses delegates, not the popular vote, to select the nominee.
Please don't waste your vote on McStupid--He's not going to pass any of the programs Hillary wants to pass!
And, how many more soldiers need to die during those four years.
I TRUST Hillary and will vote for Obama so that they can work TOGETHER!
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"McStupid" ... boy that shows your political astuteness ... nice. Do you realize that McCain was a POW for years? What did Obama do? Nothing for this country that requires courage or the possibility of getting hurt. He has has proven he is a momma's boy.
Yes the nominee is voted in by delegates --- and the super delegates should be voting based on the will of the people, not a high-pressure lobbying effort. Tell me, who won the will of the people????? Hillary Clinton has ignited a force you never experienced in your lifetime. She can throw all her support behind him, but that doesn't mean we have to follow. You need to be a proven leader for me to follow you.
How is your boy going win the electoral college in November? What is your plan to get him elected? The only plan I can see that he may have is to use Hillary and her people to get him elected? How does that forward her promotion of woman's rights. Sorry, sweetie, your not good enough to be President but you are good enough to use so that I can be president. And you think this guy is worthy to lead the country? If you think this guy is going to forward her programs, then I have some swamp land to sell that I would like to show you ... because you apparently will buy anything.
Forget about women ... what do you think about his international experience? He has NONE. Hillary Clinton is already established in the world and so is McCain. There is no way a woman of her caliber would support someone of so little experience unless she did it out of pressure.
When you vote for Obama don't go crying when he lets you down, because he will!
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Please get real, FL and MI where a mess to begin with, the results where the only somewhat fair compromise PERIOD>
GO and vote for McCain, we dont want types like you who cannot shake hands after a tuff fight in which both got in some good punches and both attacked each other negatively.
But be preprared for 8 years of McCain. No rights for a women to choose. War with Iran, 8 more years in Iraq, Romeney as VP, permanent tax cuts for the rich, religous fanatics in the Supreme court.
Go ahead an cut your nose off to spite you face.
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Yes, Robert!
We cannot wait or take chances with McCain.
To those who would vote for McCain:
Will you allow your son or daughter to die in Iraq just because Hillary is not the nominee?
Maybe you'll allow someone else's son or daughter to die?
Hmmm, I can't hear you. Is it worth it?
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McCain has a son in Iraq. He knows first hand what the stakes are? Do you?
The only way I wontt vote for McCain is if Hillary comes back because Barrack Hussein Obama falls flat on his face.
As for the writer of this blog ... I applaud her because she has depth and understanding not only of the political process but also of people. Something your candidate has none of.
Oh,and then once the real battle begins you cry "poor losers" ... like didn't you outgrow that comeback in 4th grade or is this a school project for you and you still are in 4th Grade?
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Someone had to die for you to breathe free air in America. Too bad, you are not worth it. Vote McCain the war vet.
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Right on Robert! Thanks for having some common sense, unlike the owner of this blog.
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I supported Hillary because of her policies and judgement. Because I believe in those things, I trust Hillary has a plan & I will not do the one thing she would hate - vote for McCain.
She is strong and so are we. Support Hillary now - believe in her policies and her judgement.
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Well said Mandy and be extremely proud of a great GREAT women, Hillary. She has changed this country forever in a positive way.
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Yeah Maddy!
We support Hillary!
We need a democratic president or all her programs will be vetoed!
Thank you!
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Last Saturday the DNC did something I'm not very happy about, as a matter of
fact, I'm livid. The DNC Rule Committee gave my vote to Sen. Obama. (Michigan
voter)I decided to do something about it. I am resigning
from the DNC. I like many others will not "fall in line". I will be
casting my fall vote for Sen. McCain. I have survived 8 years of President
Bush, I can take 4 of McCain. NO ONE in this great Country has the right to
take my vote and give it to someone else. NO ONE. Remember 2000?
The way the DNC, media, and pundits in this historical race has treated Sen.
Clinton is appalling at best. Why should she have to concede so soon?
Kennedy, Reagan, Hart, none of them did. Then there is the
"gracious" factor. Don't 18,000,000 people get a chance to grieve?
Didn't women especailly earn the right to process the fact we are still not as
good as a
man? Women seen their hopes and dream slapped down Tuesday, just as much as
African Americans seen theirs come true.
Not one pundit on the news said "Great job Sen. Clinton. Great job on
being the first women in our Nations history to accomplish such a huge
hurdle." No. All we heard was how ungracious and selfish she was for not
conceding that very moment. Remember she too won an upset Tuesday in South
Dakota. Not one "Yes, it is possible for a women to run for president,
and even win." No. Just get out, and get out now. How dare you not
throw in the towel right this minute. I am man, hear me roar."
I have learned a lot from this campaign. I would like to share them with you:
1. It is alright to vote for a women just because she is a women.
2. It is alright to vote for an African American just because he is an African
American.
3. It is NOT alright to not to vote for an African American just because he is
African American. This is racist.
4. It is ALRIGHT NOT TO VOTE FOR A WOMEN JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMEN.
Racism in our Country is now dead. this election has proved it, so EVERYONE
WRIGHT, SHARPTON, JACKSON, THE MEDIA, EVERYONE CAN QUIT PLAYING THE RACE CARD.
FOR THIS I AM FOREVER ETERNALLY Grateful.
However, SEXISM is alive, well and running ramped. This needs to be fixed.
Think about the sexism in this election with just the media, 2 apologizes, and
one suspension for sexist remarks. From just one Cable News Network. How many
for racist remarks? Zero, none, nil. This is a HUGE STEP FORWARD. Forty
years ago, this would not have been possible.
Mr. Dean, you should know, my vote for for Sen. McCain isn't alone a vote
against Obama, but rather a combination of that and my disappointment of the
way the DNC treated my vote. It is also a vote against the pundits and media
alike. It is a vote to show you, NO ONE, NO ONE, has a right to take my vote,
based on exit polls and give it to someone else. It is my vote to do with as I please.
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We've a right to be angry.
We do NOT have a right to send our neighbors to Iraq to die because we are angry and vote for McCain.
That would be selfish and sinful.
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Please do not insult the struggle of Black Americans everwhere with these kinds of remarks. I know Hillary's loss is a low blow for all her supporters--I cannot imagine the sort of anger and bitterness I, as a black woman, would be feeling had Obama lost the nomination--but that's no excuse to deny the suffering of millions of Americans who happen to not share your skin color.
You absolutely have the right to vote for whomever you want, but please don't try and fool anyone into thinking your decision for John McCain is for any other reason than your self-serving immaturity.
There's a good reason why women of color think that the modern feminist movement is a crock--a crock only interested in bettering the lives of WHITE women, and you are a prime example of that.
When millions of black and brown women look at Barack Obama they see the man they hope their sons can become. They see hope for their own futures. But can you see that? No. All you see is that a white woman had her chance "stolen". And that's really sad sweetheart.
Because you are willing to vote for a man who would call his own wife the c-word in full view of reporters, and whose control of the White House would make it that much more difficult for Senator Clinton to CONTINUE HER WORK IN THE WHITE HOUSE. You see, I know that even though I voted for Obama, AND caucused for him, Hillary also has MY best interest at her heart. I would NOT do anything to jeopardize her ability to use her position in the Senate TO PASS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION for this entire country.
You are a sad, sad woman. And exhibiting exactly the sort of self-serving, "I want what I want" attitude that has made the Republican party a haven for greedy good old boys for the last century.
I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms.
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It's sad you DON"T GET IT. Obama is an empty suit full of empty rhetoric and no qualifications BUT he does have numerous personal connections with all sorts of questionable characters all the way from corrupt business men to terrorists who actually bombed this country years ago.
what the hell is wrong with you people!
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And you don't think Hillary has those same questionable connections? That McCain doesn't? You seem to be the one who doesn't GET it.
If people can accuse Obama supporters of thinking that he's the Messiah, then Hillary supporters think she's the Madonna herself!
The Clintons didn't stay in office for 8 years without getting in bed with some shady people, and McCain's rise to power despite having little support from his Republican comrades didn't come about by wishing upon a star. It happened because he made so connections I'm sure he'd rather keep under wraps.
It's called POLITICS dear Albert.
The difference is that McCain and Clinton are firmly entrenched in the Washington machine and Obama is NOT! That's why he fills stadiums, that's why his speeches are so highly rated, that's why people OUTSIDE THIS COUNTRY are so interested in seeing him in the oval office.
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Do you realize that Hillary Clinton has been in public service to this country and its citizens for almost as long as Obama is alive? Does experience matter to you at all? We are involved in two wars, we have economic uncertainty, and energy crisis ... and you think it is ok to hand the keys of the country to someone with four years experience?
Do you really believe that? We have an energy crisis (and believe me it isn't new we've been having it for years) and Obama votes for the Bush-Cheney energy bill ... that's $6 million in subsidies to the oil companies. Did he tell you about that, or did you research it?
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Not all supporters of Hillary Clinton are women, nor are they all white. Perhaps you voted strictly on race but the popular vote that Hillary won indicated race was never an issue until you made it one.
Our children never knew there was tension between races because it isn't in their neighborhood or life (that is the tension we have a very diversified community)... that is until Barrack Hussein Obama and his media friends made it an issue. Take a look at a cross section of the demographics with both candidates. Hillary's is a healthy range of ethnicity and race, age, and income. How does obama's hold up? What is his plan for rural America (or maybe he doesn't need them because he referred to them as bitter didn't he)? What's his plan for winning Republicans who already see how he outspent Clinton 3 to 1 in some states AND still lost? I work with all republicans and they view his campaign as a fiscal nightmare ... they know he can't handle a budget!!!
Excuse me, I know you would like to see your son become president as we all do but that is not a reason to hand anyone (even a white woman, white man, or black woman)the nomination for President. You see that title is reserved for someone with real world experience, actual plans on pressing issues.
Oh you caucused for him, you're from Chicago... I have a couple friends who would like to talk to you ... I'll send them right over. Apparently your behavior was less than impressive and borderline illegal ... but hey that's what politics are, right? Talk about good old boys have you looked hard at the leadership of the DNC lately? You really think Obama has the qualifications and ability to lead. You must have been given a differ net program than the rest of us or you are his paid staff.
Or are you new to politics? Let me guess you have been voting for about 3 elections, is that accurate? If it's not and you have been at it longer ... post something with real truth to it ... something that has substance other than bragging how your boy took the nomination (for now).
By the way, how many states do you think there are?
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I will also bet both Julie Andrews & Blake Edwards would be disappointed as well.
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This was an extended comment to a post I made which was deleted this morning because of a technical error. It doesn't make sense as a stand alone comment, but Nancy (the honcho behind hill4pres knows what this means. --- John
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not angry "bitter"
and obama himself said "he didn't know how long we would be there" "we had to be as careful getting out and we were careless getting in"...neither of them have a plean to get out. and i have a newphew over there right now....he is only 18....so don't judge until you know the whole story.
matt also voted for clinton here in mi, and ALSO feels his vote was stolen.
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May God bless and protect your nephew in Iraq and all our soldiers.
Another thought: Without a Democratic president, every good project Hillary tries to pass will get vetoed.
I really think she wants Obama in the whitehouse so that they can work together.
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I don't want Obama in the White House because I don't trust him. The hate spewing from the pulpit at his church doesn't bother me nearly as much as the jubilation and glee in the pews. Obama was a member of that church for 20 years. He has not denounced his congregation for their joyous response to the hate coming from the pulpit. He minces his words to trick us into thinking he didn't know he sat in the pews with bigots for 20 years.
My grandson is gay and Obama threw him under the bus by giving bigot Donny McClurkin a platform to denounce gays. Another of Obama's "spiritual" advisores is Reverend James Meeks who runs Hell house's on Halloween in which he shows gay people burning in Hell with prostitutes, drug addicts, and rapists.
Obama voted for the Bush Cheney energy bill. Hillary and McCain voted against it.
At AIPAC, Obama pandered to the Jews to get their support because they don't trust him either.
It is truly sad, after I saw Obama at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, I had great hopes for him. No longer.
Join us at http://www.Democrats4McCain.US
We can't afford a hate-monger in the White House.
Get a clue. If Obama is elected, he will be a catastrophic failure and it will be 50 years before we have another opportuity like the one the Democrats are pi$$ing away.
At least with John McCain, the Democrats will get another chance in 2012. Of course, I have no hope or expectation that the Democrats will have learned their lesson and nominate a decent candidate.
I predict that as soon as the Democratic Convention is over, the Republicans will dump so much garbage on Obama, he won't be able to dig out of it in time to vote for himself in November.
Obama's a loser.
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Albert Prince:
Hey. Not so fast with the John McCain support!
Remember that Hillary has only "suspended" her campaign, not ended it. She is holding on to her delegates which puts her within easy striking distance of Obama at the convention if:
1) his poll numbers start reflecting the buyer's remorse from the early blue collar states who voted before Wright/Pfleger/Michelle/Bittergate/Ayers, etc. leaked out in spite of the liberal Obama-surrogate-media's best efforts to ignore it.
2) Another gaffe or two presents itself and Obama's negatives go up so that he becomes obviously unelectable.
3) Any other unforeseeable event that negatively impacts Obama - politics is a day to day business - anything can happen.
We have almost three months before the convention actually votes and the nominee elected.
If Obama holds on and officially gets the nomination in late August at the convention, then is the time to start actually supporting McCain.
Until then, it's best to keep making your intentions known that you will support McCain if Obama eventually becomes the nominee - but not until.
WE CAN STILL HOPE. AND WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD ODDS.
Sorry Obama folks.
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Most Democrats that are voting for McCain would come back to Hillary Clinton in a heart beet. She is the most qualified and most electable candidate. The next most qualified is McCain. Obama was so far down the list, the only reason he made it was because everyone else had to quit or in the case of Hillary was forced to suspend. (Gee, there seems to be an epidemic of that in Obama Campaigns.)
Hillary Clinton will ALWAYS be my #1 Choice.
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Absolute-
I am a Hillary supporter and voted for her in the Oklahoma election. But Obama has the charisma of Bobby Kennedy. This is why our nations youth (under 35) are wild about his candidacy. I myself am 59 and think that Hillary would have been an excellent opponent to McCain, but I think the Democratic Party's superdelegates and young Americans thought Obama was the better choice for the nation's future. -- John
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Nancy,
Excellent commentary and I agree with what you are saying.
I couldn't bring myself to register republican, so I registered Independent instead.
I'll be voting for McCain too.
I just can't bring myself to vote for Obama with his overall lack of experience.
It's ashame the democratic party let this happen.
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So, the party is making you allow McCain to win, to continue the war, to prevent anything legislation Hillary supports from being vetoed by McCain.
Actually, you could support Hillary by making sure there's a democrat in the whitehouse.
Too bad you don't support our Hillary.
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Oh we support Hillary. Totally.
If you think that Hillary's agenda will be pushed through by Democrats in the White House your mama dropped you on your head one time too many. Look at what the Democrats did to her. Anyway we'll have a Democratic congress so who needs Obama, not the Democrats and not the Republicans ... just the ones who voted for him. You newbies don't even understand all things in politics are disposable. We don't need a Democrat in the WHite House we just want ONE ... Hillary Rodham Clinton. If she isn't there to implement her plans, we have a conservative Republican who can at least respect her opinion and a democratic congress to help get things done. See we totally support her.
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thanks for this.
i can't stand obama. it's hillary for me.
i'm just gonna write her name in on the ballot.
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Hope that works in your state. Otherwise, you need to vote McCain, if Hillary doesn't prevail. Remember,
[W]right! Rezco, Ayers, Wright, Meeks, Michelle O, Fr. Flaegler, to begin the list. At least I know who McCain is and that he loves this country. These questions are still unanswered with Obama. Besides, he will not end this war. Bamboozled ring a bell?
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Me too.
I'm voting McCain.
I wish Hillary had been able to pull this off.
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She is trying to pull of the next best thing, which is to have a president who will work with her and pass her bills.
She needs your help when you vote.
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Sure that is what she is doing. The truth is that Hillary will be the nominee in the end and she is doing what she has too to get the party elders and the media off of her back for now. Get over it Obamamaniacs, your man cannot and will not win. No way and no how will he ever win..
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I'm calling all my friends to come over and read this one!!!
We're debating was it posted by a 12 year old or just by someone ignorant as to how politics actually work.
"She is trying to pull the next best thing ".. oh God Hillary, how I hope you are reading this one, because you so need a laugh and this is better than comedy central. She is trying to pull the next best thing and have a president that will work with her and pass her bills. That's all it takes is to get a President to pass your bills. Hmmm. And I guess you're proposing that Obama is the one to do it. The person who stole 4 of her delegates and diluted Florida and Michigan's votes is the person who is going to "pass her bills"
Honey, it takes a lot more than just a President it takes hard work, tenacity, experience, connections, favors, lobbying, and not a series of vacations. You don't get it. Hillary has supporters because they have been active in politics for decades and they know a candidate like her God only delivers once.
Hillary needs our help to put out the mini campfires you Obama supporters light cause this is serious politics and not time for Cumbaya and toasting marshmallows. Unknown to Hillary, she has an army of us working knowing exactly what to do to get her name on the ticket in August ... and we will stop at nothing less.
So she needs your help too ... vote for Hillary in November!
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Hillary did pull it off, just like Al Gore did when they counted ALL the votes and found that he did, indeed, win Florida and the presidency!
The DNC, in its infinite stupidity and visceral misogynistic desire for the patriarchy to prevail by any means necessary, gamed the archaic system by which they choose a nominee to favor Obama from "day one". With the help of a fawning, biased, sexist media, they managed to cover up the fact that obama won nothing.
The Boyz from Brazile assumed that the women would come back to the party and "do the right thing", despite the horrific manner in which they treated one of the best presidential nominees this party has ever had. Her one fault -- she was a WOMAN! They attacked and tried to destroy one of their own and for that I will never forgive them.
I've left the democratic party and will turn my back on them just as they turned their backs on millions of women and the men who supported Hillary with the same, if not more, passion, as they supported obama.
All of you obamabots can call Donna Brazile and complain to her about your dilemma because it was she who stated unequivically on national TV that the democratic party did not need the women, the blue collar workers, or those asians and hispanics any longer, because they (the DNC, with the help of George Soros and numerous other bundlers within the corporate power elite) had created a "new democratic coalition" of voters -- AA's, latte libers and college students.
You made your bed, now lie in it. Don't you dare come here attacking us and whining about our lack of loyalty to your messiah! Loyalty is a 2-way street and you guys ran right over us with your vitriol and meansprited attacks on a woman who deserved your respect, if not your support.
You should have thought about the consequences of your actions when you were calling Hillary and all who supported her f-ing whores, bitches, idiots, uneducated, unnecessary and your messiah flipped her off and stood silently by and said NOTHING while the media viciously attacked her every, single day for the last 5 months.
Now, you want our support? LOL! Who's stupid now?
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Yes, I will vote for McCain and then, women whom the DNC is now snubbing will be able to crash through that glass ceiling with all of its cracks.
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Hillary Clinton just couldn't pull it off.
A skinny black guy named Hussein Obama came from behind and beat her fair and square!
He won the endorsements of more governors, more senators, and more representatives.
He raised far more money and ended the primaries with money left over, not 30 million in debt like Hillary.
He won more states, he won more delegates, and delegates are what wins this one. He IS the democratic nominee!!!
So let's do as Hillary asks and support the next president of the United States, Barack Obama!!!
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Ask Hussein Obama where the money came from? Oh yeah, and ask him how he thinks giving the oil companies $6M in subsidies helps the voters and taxpayers who pay top dollar for gas and also pay for the salary of his skinny little a--.
So a good fundraiser, makes a good president? We all learned something tonight.
He is the presumptive nominee for now ... but it ends in August ... check the bylaws baby. Maybe we should post the definition of presumptive ... Sure hope the Republicans go easy on him.
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Today I'm proud!
Hillary makes me proud!
I will support her and her ideas for change by giving her a democratic president who will sign her bills!
I am with Hillary in support of Obama!
Who is with us, Hillary and me?
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No Obama, no way and no how. Not even for you Hillary. The Democrat Party no longer speaks to me. More importantly, Obama doesn't speak to me, plus he scares me to death. Our country is in trouble and we don't need a rookie. Unfortunately, McCain speaks more to me. Unless things change and you are the nominee, I'm voting McCain. Goodbye for now to my former party. I am now an Independent because of the audacity of the Democrat Party to do this to you and all women.
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I hope McCain is elected. I hope he appoints more young, conservative justices to the Supreme Court, to guarantee a conservative Court for the next 40 years. I hope that he is successful in overturning Roe v. Wade, and that my daughters and yours, and our grandchildren, have the chance to die of back alley abortions. I hope that he is successful in pushing a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. I hope that 8,000 more of our young men and women die in the war in Iraq, and Iran, and Afghanistan. I hope that during the four (or will it be eight?) years of the McCain presidency the opinion that other countries throughout the world hold of us, the USA, continues to decline, and that our power to make things better on the international stage continues to shrink. I hope this, my dear, so I can come back to your blog and blame you. Yes. When my beautiful daughter dies of an illegal abortion in 15 years, I will blame you personally because you elected John McCain even when you didn't believe anything he stood for. Because when you vote for him, and he is elected, it doesn't matter why you did it, only that you did it. You will be personally responsible for his actions as president just as you hold responsible everyone who elected George W. Bush (twice!) for every idiotic and dangerous thing he did during his eight years as our commander in chief.
I'm just saying.
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Well said!
No to McCain.
No to the further delay of equal rights.
No to more dead soldiers.
Yes to Barack Obama for President!
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No Obama, no way and no how. Not even for you Hillary. The Democrat Party no longer speaks to me. More importantly, Obama doesn't speak to me, plus he scares me to death. Our country is in trouble and we don't need a rookie. Unfortunately, McCain speaks more to me. Unless things change and you are the nominee, I'm voting McCain. Goodbye for now to my former party. I am now an Independent because of the audacity of the Democrat Party to do this to you and all women. At least I am not afraid of McCain and I am afraid of Obama.
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As the mom of a child with Cerebral Palsy, I'm appalled that you would vote against your best interests as a woman, and against the best interests of other women and children. There will be no healthcare reform under McCain. He will actually try to take away the employer tax credit on HC, to make it even less affordable. More troops will die in Iraq, and our country will be less safe. Can you sleep with their blood on your hands? The economy - what economy? It's clear McCain has no clue what to do to fix the economy - and we're already at 5.5% unemployment, 35% higher foreclosure rates over this time last year, gas is $4.30/gallon where I live (and there is no public transportation in my town). And let's not forget about women's rights - something McCain has not stood up for. He WILL appoint far RW judges that will uphold spying, refusing marriage rights, overturn Roe V. Wade (even to protect the life of the mother) and so on. And what do I tell my son when our insurance rates and out of pocket fees are so high, that we have to stop going to therapy and seeing the dr? I'm sorry son, some women where really angry and wanted to send a message. The message they sent was lost in the mail, and the one received was that they don't care about you. I know you're in pain son, but I can't afford the medicine. I know you can't walk, but I can't afford new braces. I know you're hungry - but son... I can't afford to rent your feeding pump or pay for the formula any longer. We can thank those women son... Thank you for refusing to do the right thing by letting your shameful pride stand in the way.
You were never a supporter of Hillary, if this is what you're willing to do to 'get even'. This type of selfish act makes you no better than George Bush.
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me thinks brenda is an obama 'swoon & faint' zombie. the dnc & congress thru Hillary under the bus. my vote goes to McCain. i want no part of this democratic party. Hillary had no choice but to endorse obama. i have a choice and it's not barry.
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I invite you to read Tim Wise's essay 'Your Whiteness Is Showing' (http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/WhitenessShowing.html) about women, just like you, who are voting for McCain not out of solidarity, but out of spite.
It takes a special kind of entitlement to decide that you would rather vote AGAINST your own ideals and best interests than vote for a black man who happens to stand for the same things you do (at least until this morning).
I find your decision, your reasoning, your complete lack of logic to be absolutely reprehensible.
You obviously were never a true democrat if you could so easily become a turncoat to the party.
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This is the typical racist rant that put me over the top for McCain.
Obama's a racist. McCain isn't.
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Oh, please. You don't have any concept of what TRUE racism is, that much is obvious.
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I am a life-long Democrat. I have never voted for a Republican and I cast my first vote for FDR in 1944.
I am supporting John McCain and ask you to join me:
http://www.democrats4mccain.us
Those who are whining because we won't support Obama should've thought about that and worked to stop the Democratic Party from stealing the nomination for a loser.
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You're no democrat. You're nothing more than one of the many GOP operatives working to sway voters to McCain's site. It's been published, what people like you are doing, and you're easy to spot.
There are no Democrats for McCain, because McCain stands counter to everything Democrats stand for - voting 95% of the time with George Bush. From voting for the Iraq war, cutting cake while New Orleans Drowned in the wake of Katrina, to wanting to continue the same flawed policies of Bush in nearly every measure.
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You know, I really don't care whether you believe I am a Democrat or not.
I will point out that you called me a liar when you are the liar. You have no proof one way or the other except for my statement that I am a Democrat.
This is exactly the problem with many of the Obama supporters I know. I've been called a racist by Obama supporters. My wife has been called a "racist white bitch just like Hillary Clinton" by an Obama supporter.
I don't want haters and bigots in the Democratic Party and that's what Obama has brought us.
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Do your worst, Republican racist troll.
Obama supporters, black white red and brown, will overwhelm you.
Good luck with your hate speech.
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You're action prove you're no democrat. First, I don't believe you for an instant that anyone in real life/person ever said that to your wife. And second, you'll go by what a supporter says over the candidate? If that's the case, and I ask, why support McCain? He has 100% of the Klan vote.
You can't even provide a single link where Obama has ever said anything racist or derogatory. And clearly you forget he's 1/2 WHITE!
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I suppose you are correct. I am no longer a Democrat. Nevertheless, I was in the Democratic Party until a week ago.
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This really sucks! I thought wrestling with Bush supporters for the last eight years was a pain in the butt, but having to put up with the crap you Obama supporters shovel makes right wing conservatives seem like Mr. and Mary Poppins.
I AM A LIFE-lONG DEMOCRAT AND SOCIAL ACTIVIST, A FORMER LEADER IN THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT. I HAVE WORKED FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. I HAVE SPENT MY LIFE HELPING THE DISADVANTAGED.
I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTER AND UNLESS SHE BECOMES THE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN AUGUST - I WILL VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
Not because she is a woman (even though I really like that part), but because she is smart, tough, and a centrist Democrat like myself.
It is so telling about Obama that his supporters act like children - spewing hatred, name-calling, refusing to accept that everything might not go their way.
I get it - you think you are so close to crowning your precious prince and uncooperative Hillary supporters are standing in the way.
That's life. That's tough. We're here. And you can't get THERE without us.
You should be nicer - considering.
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Don't get your knickers in a wad.
Obama supporters are rude and insulting sore-winners, just like they have been rude and insulting throughout the campaign.
They are attacking you because they have no political skills and they have no self-restraint.
They simply do not understand that the nastier they get and the more they attack us, the more solid our resolve to vote for McCain.
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No universal healthcare.
More Iraq.
Lip service to global warming.
Economic ruin.
Hillary had the integrity, grace and class to recognise that Obama is the best hope to fulfil her policies, to correct the ruin President Bush has inflicted on this nation and the fear that America has been exporting to the rest of the world since 2003.
Why don't you follow her example? Didn't you listen to her speech? There are now 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling - and there is more hope for women then ever. Hillary was a trailblazer, as Obama is for African-Americans.
They are symbols of progress, and by God does America need progress after 8 ruinous years under Bush-Cheney and the neocons.
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face - or spite America, or spite every woman's rights, or spite the rest of the world.
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And I forgot to say - grow up. For the sake of America.
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Hey I like that line by Susan B Anthony.. and I thought all she was good for was a dollar coin!
I'll have to hold onto that phrase for future reference!
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i appreciate your blog and have my doubts about an obama presidency. i am a strong hillary supporter and believe she was cheated out of this nomination.
i'm still hoping that she will pull this off because he will have a scandal come up the super's will switch over to her in Denver.
if that doesn't happen, i probably just won't vote. i can't vote for mccain, but i can't vote for obama either.
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hrvrdgrd:
Please think it over before you vote. It was a close race, but it was a race for delegates, not the popular vote, and Hillary had a pretty bad team who miscalculated how to win.
The Michigan and Florida mess was unfortunate, but Obama still played by the rules, worked hard and won.
Believe Hillary when she asks you to support Obama, she needs him in the whitehouse.
Thanks!
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BS! The rules were adapted to his winning. I believe Hillary will prevail in the end. Looks like that end is Denver. Do not despair! Even the far left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up before then. Otherwise, I a Hillary backer will vote McCain because I'm afraid Obama will win otherwise. Go Hillary, rise, rise, rise!!!
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i see the obamatons are out in full-force tonight. stick to your guns, sister!
barack obama is a race-baiting, sexist, narcisscist with a severe messiah-complex. he does NOT share my values. in fact, he's just like george w. bush.
i'm voting for john mccain!
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your blog is great. I'm angry as hell.
how dare they throw her under the bus the way they did.
i want to draft hillary and have her run as an independent.
i'm not voting for oboma, it's like voting for the anti-christ.
i'll vote for mccain, at least he's an american!!
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What?!?! You can't run for president unless you're an American. And as a reminder, unless you're a native american, we all come from immigrant blood.
And let's get this straight, Hillary isn't going to run independent. It would be the end of her career, just like Zell Miller, and soon to be Joe Lieberman.
As for the anti-christ comment, I'm not even going to bother with that, just laugh and refer you to factcheck.org.
But again, I just don't get the mindset of a person that will clearly vote against their best interests? First, you cannot be a Hillary supporter, because if you were you would know a Republican in the White House means she will not be able to get anything passed. Second, McCain in the whitehouse means that our insurance premiums won't go down - they'll go up. The economy won't get better, it will get worse. The war won't end, our children will end up being drafted to continue fighting for it.
But hey... It's idiotic reasoning such as yours that got us 8 years of Bush. So why does it surprise me that after all this country has been through, and the horrific economic shape it's in, that people would still vote for more of the same.
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In this election year, a vote for McCain is not "voting against [my] their best interests."
Obama supporters have a real hard time grasping the concept that sometimes you just have to take a stand against wrong-doing no matter the cost.
McCain is a moderate, maverick Republican who will have a Democratic veto-proof majority in both houses. That means he can accomplish very little other than deadlock for four years.
No funding by Congress - no war. No approval by Congress, no conservative on the court. And so on.
It's worth the gamble to vote for him instead of gambling with an unknown entity like Obama - with his scurrilous cronies (Rezko and Ayers) and his radical liberationist and anti-American "friends, mentors, spiritual advisors, family" (his words, not mine) like his wife, Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, and others.
"Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas." "You are judged by the company you keep."
You simply are in love with the idea of Obama and can't think past it.
Have a little respect for others who have thought about this predicament and decided on a different choice than yours.
Try a little courteous discourse for a change. If you want to change minds about the pushy, pouty, ruthless, insulting reputation Obama supporters have made for themselves, this is not the way to do it.
You make me that much more determined to see John McCain elected if Hillary is not a choice.
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I agree. However, I still believe that Hillary will prevail.
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obama doesn't want our support anyway...
he thinks all hillary supporters are uneducated white trash bitter racists
apparently he thinks he can win the election with kids, african americans and rich liberal latte drinkers...
so let's see how he does with that group
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Here, here. I'm with you on that. Also, I'm voting for McCain, if Hillary doesn't prevail in the end.
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obama called the clinton's racists and turned the african american community against them.
obama lied about rezko.
obama lied about wright.
obama lied about ayers.
obama lied about pfledger.
obama lied about selma.
obama lied about his muslim background.
obama is a liar.
what exactly has he accomplished?
what are his legislative accomplishments that qualify him to be president?
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You are so wrong--
You must believe everything you hear in the media and read on the internet, as long as it's against our nominee.
Or you're a Republican Plant/Troll
We aren't buying it!
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WHOAAA! Clintondem is "...so wrong?" About what?
Obama's lies about Selma, Pfleger, Wright, Rezko and Ayers are staight out of his mouth - on TV - for all of us to see! (The muslin accusation might be a stretch.)
Geez! You Obama supporters are either blinded by the aura of the messiah or shamefully disingenuous - or maybe just shockingly uninformed.
The Democrats have a chance to make this right at the convention by changing their support to Hillary (who is not out of the race yet BTW. Her campaign is "suspended," remember!)
So after August, if it's No Hillary, it's NoBAMA. And hello John McCain!
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i'm a 22 yr old black male that supports senator clinton.
she has the qualifications to lead us and obama does not.
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No you are not--
You're probably a 52 year old Republican male spreading lies and trying to get former Clinton supporters to vote for McCain.
We aren't buying it.
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Is everybody a Republican who refuses to vote for Obama?
If you are going to troll for Obama, try responding to the issues brought up by the posts instead of taking up space with the incessant "Republican" name-calling.
There are millions of us Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain. It's real. Accept it.
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Why on earth would you vote McCain to protest the democrats? I want Obama to lose too, but I don't want McCain in either. If Hillary doesn't register as a write-in in my state (CA), writing her in will give a vote to Obama. So, I will then vote for Cynthia Mckinney in the Green party, not the damn republicans, for God's sake. Hasn't anyone learned anything in the last 8 years? Vote Green or independent or write in Mickey Mouse if you have to, but don't give Hillary's 18 million to the enemy!
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Hi Jessica,
Thank you for not voting McCain, and I understand voting for green when you don't like either candidate--I've done it before myself.
Maybe by November you'll know more about Obama and choose him but at least don't vote McCain!
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Jessica:
Why on earth I WOULD hold my nose and vote for McCain:
I trust that a veto-proof Democratic majority Congress will hold McCain down. We have not had that check in place for many, many years.
McCain will be a hamstrung, one-term President. I believe sincerely that he will do less damage to the world than Obama with a rubber-stamping Democratic majority on hand and the disgraceful excuse for a free press at his back.
Obama is a closeted radical uber-liberal with anti-American ties and financing from a convicted Chicago racketeer.
A vote for anybody but McCain IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA.
If Hillary does not miraculously survive to be the nominee, then McCain is the only thing keep this "smooth as silk Chicago thug" out of the White House.
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I believe Hillary will prevail in the end. Looks like that end is Denver. Do not despair! Even the far left wing of the Democratic Party will wake up before then. Otherwise, I a Hillary backer will vote McCain because I'm afraid Obama will win otherwise. Go Hillary, rise, rise, rise!!!
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Hillary Clinton is the ONLY CANDIDATE with the Intelligence, Strength, and Spirit to make the programs happen to make anything happen.
There was not reason to step down and support Obama ... she was forced into it and anyone with half a brain can see that. She has the popular vote. And yes the nominee is selected by the delegates who are to vote the will of the people. Looks like there was a major breakdown in the system there. Remember that the General Election is based on the electoral college which Obama will lose thus losing the campaign again for the Democratic party. Hillary Clinton has the electoral College locked. You think WV is going to vote for Obama on what Hillary tells them. 100% of the Counties voted for Hillary Clinton -- name one time your little boy pulled that one off. He didn't he couldn't.
McCain has half the sense of Hillary Clinton; but he also has twice the sense of Obama. So you are telling me to vote for the third most competant candidate? Are you taking medication to address this thought process? Cause you are showing signs of slow leak in intelligence.
To vote for a third party is only going to dilute, not change, the votes of the two major parties unless Hillary Clinton runs as an Independent. A vote to McCain is a dead-on right hook on the jaw of the Democratic Party ... especially if casted as a DEMOCRAT. The Democratic Party deserves a good punch or two for how they have treated Hillary Clinton. And I for one intend to give as many punches as I can.
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I'm a women and I understand greatly how women feel, but maybe just maybe if women didn't make this race all about them she may have won. Some Hillary Supporters only saw her as a candidate for woman but we all must remember that everyone matters, and to call Obama the anti-crist, racist, and other terms is simply wrong. I know if the tables were turned and Obama only had votes in Florida and Michigan and wanted a revote everyone would have screamed who do he think he is don't he know the rules, how dare he, it saddens me to the point to where women are making women of all walks of life look weak they see us as if we don't get our way all we will do is complain and whine and trust me this is not the way the we need to portray ourselves as bitter, now just because Hillary is not the nominee everybody wants to run to McSame as that is the answer, trust me it's not iot just shows that we are weak and McCain is probably sitting back laughing. Just look at the facts half the time this man jokes around to make a point he doesn't know anything about the economy and he doesn't seem to show no concern over innocent people losing their lives over a war we were lied to about, McCain whether make sure that things go good in other countries but what about us we are losing our homes high gas prices and people are losing jobs, I don't know Obama or any other candidate personally but he looks way better in my book, he may went to Trinity and sat under Rev. Wright but that doesn't say he is racist in the least he may have made a bad choice but who know if he ever went as being a member don't entitle you to go every Sunday, but I bet everyone have a friend or family member who makes us look bad but the answer is not to turn them away as that don't solves the problem and we shouldn't be judged based of other people's character it's just simply wrong, did anyone judge Hillary for staying with an unfaithful man and stand by his side, that to me is poor judgement, but it's bigger than nitpitcking their bad points as no one is perfect and if you know one show me, Obama is not muslim his dad was, and he knows his sstakes are high being the first African American so this might just make him do well to set an example for those of all walks of life, so think of this before you vote for a man who doesn't define what the country needs, now that Hillary have set the bar follow her example not trash it, if that happens then no other woman would want to run as they will feel all their hard work was for nothing and that is truly disappointing and sad, now what we can do is fight to make sure that the future will be better for the Dems, but don't blame the supporters as we didn't opt not to count the two states, so I say vote for Obama don't make the same mistake that those made putting bush back in office for four more years our country don't deserve that and neighter do our kids so just think hard and long before making a bad choice
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I am in the Military and was impressed with Senator Clinton, gave her my support.
As badly as I want us to get out of Iraq, I cannot support a candidate like Senator Obama.
He has no experience whatsoever.
Senator McCain has been to Iraq several times, he understands what is happening there.
I trust him to make the right decisions for our country and put our national security first.
I simply cannot put my support behind a potential Pres Obama.
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What amazes me is that with woman as the majority of voters, they couldn't get behind Hillary more than they did. There's no lack of women in the Democratic Party, there's a lack of solidarity among women that is reflected in every election I've ever witnessed.
Hillary is going to be a powerhouse in the Senate, and efforts to draw votes away from Obama will only diminish her influence. Let her stand down with grace, and continue her efforts were they can do much good.
If you're a Democratic, vote Democrat. Don't split the party like George Wallace did.
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Sorry.
Too much at stake with the closeted uber-liberal radical Obama and too much abuse from Obama surrogates (that would include the MSM) and Obama supporters like many of the petulent ones on this blog.
Thank you for expressing yourself without the standard vitriol so present here.
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Nancy, you're totally weirded out wrong -- and very, very foolish.
Obama, as Hillary said, is your best choice if you want any chance at making the world (and the US) a better place. He also has a better chance of getting elected than Hillary did against McCain. In spite of MY voting for her, the Republicans have an arsenal of negatives against her that would have made it hard to get her elected. (Why do you think so may superdelegates supported Obama? and why Rush Limbaugh asked Republicans to vote for her when allowed to do so by state law?) Obama speaks out for far more issues that you'll find appealing & that McCain opposes -- if you study their positions as closely as you have been--and not be blinded by disappointment. He just isn't a female, but he might select a female running mate (hopefully Hillary).
What you are doing may be popular with some of your family & friends, but I think it is very illogical & self-defeating.
--John
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Do you really think we Hillary supporters are voting against Obama because he is not female? That's it? That's the level of respect you have for us ticked off women - AND MEN!
You say "He also has a better chance of getting elected than Hillary did against McCain." Funny. The polls and common sense say differently. She is heavily vetted already. He has had the freest ride of any politician in history thanks to the fawning liberal press.
And there is a world of darkness swirling around him waiting to be exposed.
I'll believe you are a Democrat, but your low opinion of women's abilities to have actual well-reasoned thought on their own is...I'll try to be nice about it...hmmm...unfortunate.
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No, I think you're voting for McCain because you're sore losers, crybabies, all 310 of you.
We won't need you to win our landslide against McCain.
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I'm voting for McCain because I believe in him more as a person and a leader. I don't believe in Obama. You are being disrespectful to me and my judgment by calling me a sore loser and a crybaby. Obama supporters are another reason why I can't vote for him. Calling all of us names is not mature nor is it necessary. I've done my research on McCain as I have on Obama. Even in the aftermath I do not see someone who is capable to handle the presidency in Obama. He played gold while he had his advisers listen to Hillary's speech in stead of doing it himself. He assigned a three person team to select his vice-president hopefuls. This aspect of his personality bothers me greatly. The there are the subtle lies that he's been caught in. He doesn't have to speak poisoned words, his proximity to undesirable associations tell another story that does not collaborate with what Obama says.
Your remark that you won't need us for your landslide against McCain is weak because every vote counts. If there are enough of us voting for McCain, you won't have your landslide. You can draw more flies with honey than vinegar, so you should leave your vinegary statements home.
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Lorena:
I don't see the Hillary supporters whining that much on this blog - just you Obama folks.
I'm really beginning to figure this out. You all are scared. That's why the Obama posts are typically bordering on hysterical.
You need us to win. We say no! And much to your distress, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't force us to do anything.
You certainly can't persuade us - you have no case and you have no apparent grasp of the art of persuasion anyway.
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LindaA1-
Look, I am a Hillary supporter also. I don't think your opposition to Obama is based on feminism alone.
McCain subscribes to the same economic tripe that is wiping out the US middle class. When I took Economics 101 (40 years ago), I learned that most economists (using their advanced Keynesian calculus equations) believed that progressive taxes were responsible for the rise of the middle class. McCain and his Republican allies have spent the last 8 years inadvertently trying to wipe us out. Also this same cabal is responsible for our prescription bill gravy train for the pharmaceutical industry prohibiting competitive bidding & leaving a huge donut hole vacuum which really hurts low income seniors. Both Hillary & Obama want most all Americans (especially children) to be covered by a national health care plan. Listen to any Republican & they say the energy crisis can be solved by more drilling -- and not by alternative ways of producing electricity (except nuclear-which Obama supports) or producing vehicles not dependent on fossil fuels - except for biofuels, which may be reapportioning our farmlands away from food production. We need to mandate ALL gasoline fueled vehicles produced in the US be plug-in hybrids capable of at least 40 miles on a plug-in charge. THIS IS NOT FANTASY.
If we mandate this change, we can reverse our balance of trade & balance of payment deficits within a decade.
Hillary & Barak both understand these principles of economics, health care and energy much better than any Republican ever will. These are just a few of the many issues that ought to make you think twice about voting with the "DARK SIDE".
Also please remember that approximately one out of ten voters (my guess) were Republicans and yellow-dog Democrats who listened to Rush Limbaugh & voted for her because they perceived she was the weaker candidate and I also think Limbaugh and his right-wing talk show cronies have amassed a large cache of damaging info that they think would have destroyed the H. Clinton campaign. We may never know.
Because of the Republican's lack of belief in governmental regulation, we have the subprime mortgage meltdown, toys that kill children, untested tainted meat that is probably responsible for about 10% of Altzeihmers cases, companies who have farmed out manufacturing and service industries to foreign countries without any negative consequences and rewarded by tax advantages. These are just a few of the many Republican failures that McCain is unlikely to fix, since he doesn't support very many government regulations on American business.
Also, if you don't think the Supreme Court is only 2 votes away from overturning Roe vs Wade, you've got your head buried.
Hillary and I know we have a better choice than following the path to economic and social disaster.
Rethink your opposition to Obama. Rejoin the party that makes sense & restores values and freedoms back to the American people. VOTE POSITIVE.
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JOHN:
First off, I don't know what a jayhawk is other than a bird...
I am as opposed to the Bush/GOP assault on the country as you are, maybe moreso.
But, John McCain is not George Bush for one thing. For another, he will be a one-term President with a majority Democratic House and Senate.
That means he will not be able to wage his war unless the Democrats fund it. If they do, it's their stupid fault.
He will not be able to appoint a conservative judge to the Supreme Court with a 2/3 majority of the Senate. If he does not put up a moderate judge who will not reverse Roe, then he can sit out four years with a vacancy on the Court. If the Democrats do approve a conservative, then it's their own stupid fault.
McCain will be hamstrung by the Democratic majority. Basically, he will come into office as a lame duck. This means nobody in Congress will have any reason to bow to him or try to appease him. He will have very little power. Like Bush now.
Anything he does by Executive Order can be undone by the next President within minutes of taking office.
With McCain and the sure majority of Democrats coming to Congress, we will have four years of deadlock.
About healthcare, moving a universal healthcare plan to fruition will be time-consuming - four years at least. There's nothing to keep Hillary from developing that program within the Senate with the blessing of a Democratic majority and having it ready to implement on day one with the inauguration of the next President in four years. No time lost.
Sure, as President, McCain would do some damage - but nothing like Obama.
OBAMA IS NOT HILLARY WITH TESTICLES.
Hillary is a centrist, mainstream moderate and would govern from that place.
Obama is an uber-liberal, radical liberationist who hangs out with anti-American, reverse-racist cronies and Chicago racketeers.
This man is not what he claims to be. He espouses mainstream policies because that is the only way to win the election.
As for that urban legend about the impact Limbaugh had sending GOP votes to Hillary, it has been debunked repeatedly by exit polls.
As for what the GOP has waiting for sliming Hillary, it can't be worse than what they've thrown at her for years. They hate her.
Obama is an unknown, the press has protected him like an orphaned newborn.
Knowing where he has spent the last 20 years, I know there are bucke