A STOLEN ELECTION
Was the 2008 Democratic Primary Election fixed?
Why did the Democratic Party Leadership go against these beliefs and instead push the Super Delegates and the media to select the nominee with the most "perceived" pledged delegates?
I've been thinking about the similarities of the 2000 Presidential election between Bush and Gore and how that election mirrors the 2008 Democratic Primary between Clinton and Obama.
In 2000, the democrats fought hard to make sure every vote was counted and recounted. They cried "foul" when Florida was ordered to stop counting the votes. They took their fight to the Supreme Court and lost. The election was given to George Bush and no one will ever know how the votes were truly caste.
Flash forward to the 2008 Democratic primary election and we have the state of Florida crying "foul" and asking the Democratic Party to count all the votes in full as intended (see lawsuit filed here), only to have the Democratic Party (the same one that argued in 2000 to count every vote) Rules and Bylaws committee vote "no" thereby giving the election to Barack Obama - who did not win the popular vote.
The RBC argued that Florida broke the rules and therefore must be penalized. In 2000, the Republicans argued
that certain counties didn't follow the rules and therefore those votes should not be recounted.
The DNC decided to penalize both Florida and Michigan for holding their primaries early, even though four other states also violated the DNC rules, yet these states did not have to pay a penalty, click here to view DNC Delegate Selection Rules pdf.
While the DNC rules allowed for Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina to hold their elections ahead of schedule, the rules stated the following:
Iowa was not suppose to hold it's election before Jan 5, 2008, it was held on Jan 3.
New Hampshire was not suppose to hold it's election before Jan 22, it was held on Jan 8.
South Carolina was not suppose to hold it's election before Jan 29, it was held on Jan 26.
Only Nevada held it's election within the time frame outlined by the DNC rules.
The RBC chose a completely different path for penalizing Michigan voters. Barack Obama, John Edwards, and Bill Richardson all removed their names from the ballot, while Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gavel all kept their names on the ballot. There was no requirement by the DNC to have their names removed. The only agreement by all candidates was not to campaign there.
Debbie Dingell, a Michigan DNC member stated "those candidates who do not even want Michigan voters to consider them have sent their message to Michigan about how they feel about Michiganders".
So voters in MI that might have voted for either Obama, Edwards or Richardson, could have voted uncommitted since that was a selection on the ballot.
But, the RBC decided that the penalty to Michigan would be to seat the delegates by 1/2 and that Clinton would get 34.5 delegates (1/2 minus 4 delegates owed to her) and Obama would receive 29.5 delegates (all of the uncommitted plus 4 delegates from Clinton).
The Democratic party overturned the election results.
Barack Obama knows full well that if you remove your name from a ballot, you do not receive votes. Just ask Alice Palmer, the Illinois State Senator that Obama removed from the ballot (along with other opponents) on a technicality to be sure that voters would only vote for him!! (read about it here).
Had Michigan and Florida both seated their delegates in full like Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina did, and the delegates had been counted as the voters voted, then the results of the election would have been:
Hillary Clinton 1,725 pledged delegates
Barack Obama 1,707 pledged delegates
Hillary Clinton would have won the pledged delegate count by 18 delegates.
Hillary Clinton 18,046,007 votes
Barack Obama 17,869,542 votes
Hillary Clinton won by 176,465 votes
Why? Because he knew that Hillary Clinton would win both states and therefore win the election.
Donna Brazile said "my mama taught me to play by the rules". If you break the rules, you must be penalized.
Well what about Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina? Why weren't they penalized?
What about all the rules that were broken in the caucuses? Why aren't those states penalized?
If it's playing by rules that matter, then what about the numerous fraudulent claims that took place in the Texas caucuses alone? Read about these incidents here and here
In the precinct I attended in Houston, the Precinct Capt was from out of state and the judge worked on the Obama campaign (both illegal). Many people who voted that night had no identification or proof that they had voted in the primary (which was required). We filled out complaints and affidavits - so, what happened to these broken rules? Should the Texas caucus results be thrown out?
The Democratic Party made up the rules to achieve the outcome they wanted.
At least not all members of the party and Super Delegates feel the same way. Last week I heard back from two Super Delegates that had this to say:
Thank you for your
message. I am a super delegate pledged to support Hillary Clinton. I
am doing everything in my power to get her elected. I will stay with her
until she releases her delegates. Please do not believe that all super
delegates support Obama or switch their vote. I believe that a pledge
is your promise to support. I don't give my pledge
lightly.
I am receiving 50 to 80 e-mails daily in support of Hillary. I try to answer them all if only briefly. If every delegate reads and pays attention to the letters that I am receiving, it should bring them over to Hillary's side. Thank you for your work on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
and this oneI am receiving 50 to 80 e-mails daily in support of Hillary. I try to answer them all if only briefly. If every delegate reads and pays attention to the letters that I am receiving, it should bring them over to Hillary's side. Thank you for your work on behalf of Hillary Clinton.
Just a reminder: The presumptive
presidential nominee of the Democratic party does
not pick the vice presidential nominee. The delegates to the
national convention select the vice presidential nominee.
All the presumptive nominee can do is recommend someone to be the vice
presidential nominee. It is the delegates who actually decide who the vice
presidential nominee will be.
Hillary has at least 1900 delegates who stand ready to vote for her to
be the vice presidential nominee. If these delegates stay unified the democratic
party leaders will certainly not want to see a floor fight for the vice
presidential nomination.
The past six months have shown us how important it is to be unified around
a certain cause or person. Keep up the good work. Yes, she can!
For those that tell me to listen to Hillary, she supports Obama, I say I am listening to what she says:
"Always aim high, work hard and care deeply about what you believe in. And, when you stumble, keep faith. And, when you're knocked down, get right back up and never listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on."So - while the leaders of the Democratic Party have silenced her. We will continue the fight on her behalf and to ensure that everyone knows Hillary Clinton is the Winner of the 2008 Democratic Primary Election.
UPDATE: After I published this blog and sent it to the Super Delegates, I received this message back from one of them:
"Great Job of explaining and clarifying complicated cover up. Keep up the good work. It's a long time to August 25, 2008. People come up to me everyday and tell me, they would have voted for Hillary and are reluctant to support Barack Obama."
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pumaparty.com
pumapac.org
writehillaryin.com
clintondems.com
hireheels.com
gopumaparty.com
hillarysupporters.com
writeinpartyusa.org
clintons4mccain.com
hillarygrassrootscampaign.com
riverdaughter
hillaryclintonforum.net
womenforfairpolitics.com
donedems.com
hillaryunited.com
savagepolitics.com
seatourdelegates.com
noquarterusa.net
liberalrapture.com
nowewont.org
shutthefreudup.com
petitionforhowarddeantoresignasdncchair
petitionpledgetovoteagainstobama
petitionhillarydontbevp
millionwomenmarch.blogspot.com
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thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com
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worstlittlecaucusintexas.blogspot.com
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i think the dnc set this up because obama had the ability to raise so much money.
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great post. Thanks for this.
I tend to agree. While the DNC and party officials keep the media focused on one thing, then another is and was actually happening behind the scenes.
Folks - we've been bamboozled!!
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http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/06/15/soross-new-hostile-takeover-democratic-party.html
Soros's New Hostile Takeover: The Democratic Party
the other shoe...
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http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1064
http://www.agonist.org/archives/009016.html
Is hacking the voting machine at the GE next?
They stole the primary in the caucus states and they have just deployed 3700 so-called 'campaign organizers' to all 50 states to prepare for November (I read somewhere).
I'm concerned that they'd try stealing the GE.
I mean how hard is it with all those fraudulent voter registrations in place?
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I agree that we must not give up.
I also think it's important to post every article that provides evidence of this
collusion so that it can be placed in the vault. (with links)
It's also recommended that you keep a personal record of articles, links, screen
shots, and all other info you find since so much of it tends to get
"disappeared" if it's critical of certain people and their actions.
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Wow Nancy an excellent article. Great to see in print some of the exact things that have been running through my head these past few weeks. I felt like I was harboring my own conspiracy theory until I read this. Thanks! You go girl!
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Thank you so much for this information! I am still behind Hillary 100% After
receiving the photo album from her campaign today and listening to her
suspension speech again, I donated more to her. I will keep fighting, and I hope
that she is still fighting with no disrespect to Nobama, but with the facts as
described above. There is still time until August, the delegates have time to
think on this. It looks like some may be listening. The DNC has time to redeem
themselves. I sure hope they do otherwise they will have an embarrassment as
President, or a Republican. The sad part is that the Republican is the is the
better candidate of the two. I still have hope, how can they let the best
candidate possible slip through their fingers?
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i just saw will bowens from PUMA on neil cavuto. looks like most of their supporters are going for mccain. I joined puma last night after hearing that obama put hillary's ex-campaign manager on staff. That is a big F-U to hillary and her supporters.
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Thank you very much for putting it all together.
This was a repeat of 2000: both popular vote and pledged delegates have been won by a candidate, then SCOTUS - errr - RBC - swooped in and fudged those numbers to favor the other.
I shall link your entry around - good work - deserves to be seen
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Thank you for this thoughtful and detailed post. Reading it brought back all the emotions I felt when Hillary officially suspended her campaign: a mixture of grief, anger, and utter determination to support her through Denver, and beyond. Keep up the good work, and all of us Hillary supporters, let's keep our chins up!
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Please add this new Hillary website to your list, thanks!
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Why are you supporting this woman who couldn't figure out that democratic delegates are apportioned proportionately?!? After 50 years in the party, you would think she could figure it out. If a nominating process reflects presidential abilities, she doesn't have them. She had every advantage and lost them all.
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